Hi All,

So, Rome was not built in a day.

And on my debut live video chat, we had a sound hiccup, and then a video hiccup. And my screen kept on fading out. However, we survived and here it is!

It was good to chat to Michael whom I haven’t seen for a long time.

We were first introduced, shortly after Trump took office in 2017 at a breakfast at the Core Club in New York. We then got to know each other well that first summer of the new administration out in the Hamptons. We’d meet for coffee at the appropriately named “Coffee House” in Bridgehampton when Michael was starting to get the inkling that the “big guy” was not going to be there for him after all and that he was en route to becoming the first member of his self-described “thrown-under-the-bus” club.

It occurred to me it’d be good to get his insight into what’s going on inside Trump World, given he was, as he says, Donald Trump’s first call in the morning and his last call at night for many, many years.

Watch the conversation on Vicky Ward Investigates