If you had told me 23 years ago, when I first met Jeffrey Epstein, that I’d still be reporting on him in 2025, I’d have been stunned and appalled. Back then very few people knew who he was, and he made my life hell, as I’ve written many times over.

If you’d told me one year ago, that Epstein’s ghost would try to interfere with the launch of The Idaho Four, I’d be less shocked because Epstein’s mythology refuses to die. But I’d have been just as appalled.

And yet, here we are.

Yesterday was publication day for The Idaho Four and, as those of you watched my segment with Jim Acosta yesterday may have noticed, I found myself talking equally about the book – and Jeffrey Epstein.

Yesterday, I gave this first in-depth interview about the book to Jessica, because it was her reporting on the murders Moscow in her newsletter, that drew me in to the story.

Watch the interview here with Jessica.